This technique is supposedly easier and less expensive than the tapering of the military rounds but comes at the price of a less efficient seal and reduced accuracy. As a fun aside, the SA only Nagants are also specifically mentioned in the Single Action Shooting Societys rule book as legal for Cowboy Action Shooting. No
And of course, anyone who collects Russian militaria needs one. = = Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic, i.e. More recently, Prvi Partisan (PPU) (sometimes branded Hot Shot) became available at about $22 per 50. On the left side under the Tula marks is what looks like a square with a upside down cross inside; on left side of trigger looks like a circle with a triangle inside; left side in front of the factory SN is a C. The pistol is important marked with CDI and importers SN. Comes with holster ,belt and Russian red star and patch. With over 2 million revolvers made, the 1895 Nagant revolver is not only a popular surplus item, it's still being picked up on battlefields and crime scenes. Some things like the sealing system and the transfer bar were ahead of their times. The weapon has been considered to be "antique" in Belgium so it became legal to be in possession of the weapon. The original Nagants were single action only, but later an officer's model was produced that was double action. I saw spam cans on sale at SG Ammo for $249.50. . Stalin famously brutalized his people, including his crippling purges of the Red Army officer corps in the 1930s. Can they be more than historic curiosities? Its a cool little gun that is surprisingly pleasant to shoot. But the trigger iswell its just the worst trigger ever. One view from the side, the
The real legacy of the M1895 Nagant is its impressive durability. M1895 Nagant Revolver. Many thousands were sold in the past twenty years and still sit in gun cabinets as amusing plinkers. All Rights Reserved. The M1895 Nagant revolver was designed in the 1890s by Leon Nagant: that's the same Nagant name in the Westernized term "Mosin-Nagant," as he was the inventor of the M91 rifle's interrupter (and other small features). Even the United States tried to go with a softer shooting sidearm with the Colt New Army/Navy, introduced in 1892, which was chambered in .38 Long Colt. It has a barrel length of 4 inches, and has four-groove rifling with a right hand twist. RUSSIAN NAGANT REVOLVER 1913. And yet the 1895 Nagant remains popular for reasons other than its historic cachet. Military Preservation & Civilian Firearms Forums for Collectors, Post This marking was used only for 3 years - 1921-1, c1932 mfr. In 2013 the weapon was again prohibited. Henry Repeating Arms recently presented a $25,000 check a nonprofit organization that provides support and programs for the families and co-workers of firefighters killed in the line of duty. A featured contributor for Strategy & Tactics, he likes dogs, range time, and a good cigar - preferably with an Old Fashioned that has an extra orange slice. - Detachable hammer firing pin. It was still produced and used in great numbers during World War II and The sources I found rate the Nagants performance, with 108 grain military ammo, at 900 to 1,100 FPS. The owner,
The revolutions of 1917 led to the Russians withdrawing from World War I, but peace was not at hand, as the Russian Civil War erupted almost immediately. The Swedish and Norwegian Nagants used a different cartridge, the 7.5mm Nagant. Reminds me of my pet peeve (Which does not apply here) People who call Mosin Nagants, Nagants. - Dismountable ratchet. The MO marking is subject to much speculation, but in the end nobody has documented proof of what it means. Re: Nagant Revolver marking identification? The disadvantage of this design is that Nagant revolvers were laborious and time-consuming to reload, with the need to manually eject each of the used cartridges, and reload one cartridge at a time through a loading gate. This system all but eliminates the cylinder gap of other revolvers. Now, Im not saying that the 7.65 and the 7.62x38R are viable military, police, or defensive cartridges in 2022. Location: In my own little weird world in Anchorage, Alaska, Standard inspector and rebuild stamps, nice looking gun. Anyway, he also designed the M1895 Nagant revolver, and it is pretty unique, and, in my opinion, a bit ahead of its time so long . The Nagant 1895 revolver served on both sides. You can make your first post here! but they have been digitally removed in these photos for security
Within such an environment, Russian arms development did not always keep pace with the rest of the world. Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: http://www.h6x.net/nagant_m1895_years_and_marks.htm, http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinRareNagant.htm, http://www.surplusrifle.com/pistolm1mble/index.asp, http://www.imssu.org/articles/The%2020revolver.pdf. 4 This allows the reloaders to work up a load that fits their needs and is specific for the Nagant. A few weeks ago I finally broke down and bought myself a M1895 Nagant Revolver to fill a gap in my collection of Former Soviet Military Pistols. 115 Grain vs. 124 Grain 9mm Ammo: Whats the Difference? I will upload a couple more, but would appreciate any input- thanks. 1895 Nagant markings? Your assistance is greatly appreciated. "Fast is fine, But accuracy is everything". On the other hand,. The cylinder does not swing out. 1939 Mosin-Nagant Model 1895 Revolver Rig WW2 1939 Production 7.62x38mmR. Competitive Shooting Sports: Everything You Need To Know, Top US Gun Manufacturers: Who They Are by State, Part 2, The Many 9mm Rounds From Around the Globe, The Firearm Owners Protection Act and What It Meant for Machine Guns. More on that in a moment, but the guns service deserves a little attention because it was a warhorse, despite its odd appearance and anemic reputation. This eliminates the cylinder gap. Lets take a closer look at how that system works. : : // , 2008 , 248 24.03.2000 , , Rappaport, The Last Days of the Romanovs: Tragedy at Ekaterinburg (2009), p. 181. Many smaller proof marks can also be seen between the
- Trigger guard used a mounting tool for the springs. German: Foreign Mfg. At the beginning of the article, we said that over 2,000,000 Nagant revolvers had been made. remained in use with the Russian Railways, postal service,[9] and some remote police forces for many years. Area Code: 314. Decades of experience with handguns and holsters have given the author some excellent insights into the most popular designs. The revolver has about 75% of its original finish remaining. The Tula mark is no problem but there are several others that I can not Identify. They
Izhevsk in 1944, while the one on the bottom right was made in Tula in 1941. for the use or application of material found on this site. This ammunition is interchangeable with the 7.5mm 1882 Ordnance (aka Swiss 7.5mm revolver).[25][26]. Thats been true of the peacetime 1930s revolvers and also of the rough and ready 1943 samples. They were corrosive and only moderately consistent. Some of the pictures are not very clear but are the best I can do. That's about 23 cents a round. Please email us with your surplus inventory you are wanting to sell. Has a 7.5"" barrel with bright bore and excellent .Click for more info. The projectile is seated below the mouth of the cartridge, with the cartridge crimp sitting just above the bullet. That cartridges underwhelming performance prompted the return to the .45 ACP with the M1911 and the Smith & Wesson Model 1917 revolver. by Longcolt44 Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:33 pm, Post [13] In the police role, it was frequently seen with a cut-down barrel to aid in concealment by plainclothes agents. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future! The empty weight is 1.7 pounds. The barrel features a short conical section at its rear; this accepts the mouth of the cartridge, completing the gas seal. The picture at
However, when you take away the Nagants party trick, what youre left with is a rather shoddy revolver. The
Younger Millennials remember $79 Mosin-Nagant rifles; and we all bought a CZ-52 because it was like 150 bucks. The original cartridge was loaded with black powder, and individual extraction was more reliable than simultaneous. Despite the cool operating system, the Nagants performance relies on quality ammunition. Posts: 313. With over 2 million revolvers made, the 1895 Nagant revolver is not only a popular surplus item, its still being picked up on battlefields and crime scenes. The gap also is a path for the escape of high pressure hot gases. Sure, the Nagant had 7 shots. you feel there is use of a copyrighted photo, contact the owner and
- First Nagant revolver Model 1878 in 9.4mm caliber. The bottom left shows that the pistol was made in
The revolver has matching serial numbers and all the appropriate markings for a Nagant made in 1915, but the right grip and the hammer may have been replaced. . Numbers Number 1 -- Unknown mark Triangle 1 -- 1871st ABV Moscow Military District Triangle 1 -- 103rd GRAU Arsenal 2 -- Unknown Mark -- (martin08) 02 -- Hungarian Arsenal Mark -- (martin08) Heck, I wont even own a .380. 7.62mm Nagant is also known as 7.6238mmR (Rimmed) or "Cartridge, Type R". On the left side under the Tula marks is what looks like a square with a upside down cross inside; on left side of trigger looks like a circle with a triangle inside; left side in front of the factory SN is a C. The pistol is important marked with CDI and importers SN. He is a military historian specializing in World War II and has written a few things, as he says, "here and there". Youll have to get the barrel threaded. The Nagant revolver does away with that gap. The mark on the loading looks like a hammer. When the Russians adopted the Nagant revolver, the other major powers service revolvers were chambered in 45 Colt (USA) and 455 Webley (Great Britain). close ups of the front and rear
sights of the weapon. The M1895 Nagant revolver can be found on the used market in the $400-$600 range. This feature also eliminates the possibility of injury from gases escaping through the gap, which can injure a finger if the user holds the gun with a finger positioned beside the gap.[10]. During the earlier period, since 1919, Izhevsk used a "wheat with hammer and sickle" stamp on the barrel shank, receiver, and stock. Introduced in 1895, the Nagant was deployed throughout the Russian Army in time for the 1904-1905 Russo-Japanese War, a bloody affair that foreshadowed the trench warfare of World War I. Nor does it have the iconic lineage of the Colt 1911 or Browning Hi Power. Of course, if someone is familiar with the 1895 Nagant, the first feature they think of is that unlike any other mass-produced revolver, it can be effectively suppressed. GunMag Trivia: Did the Pilgrims Have Guns? Price does include shipping. Join Date: April 13, 2008. The picture on the right shows where modern US import markings are placed,
It did, however, serve Russia and the Soviet Union for 55 years and in four major wars, including the Russian Civil War immediately following World War I and the revolutions of 1917. The seal gives the round an estimated 50 to 70 FPS in extra velocity, translating to a little more energy at the muzzle and on the target. Some surplus loads go up to 109gr and nearly 1300fps, though that may be from improper storage and resulting overpressure. When fired in double action, the Nagants cylinder cams forward so that the mouth of the chamber comes flush with the forcing cone. . It has a 100% stop rate when applied directly to the back of a dissidents skull. shoot one. Several of the marks don't show up real well in the pictures - they are: Right side of pistol on tang is what looks like the trident and also a circle with what looks like a 5 inside; under the cylinder is a cricle with a K inside, what looks like 3/4 of a box with right side open and 1/2 box with the bottom and right side missing inside the 3/4 box (sorry for the long winded description but it just wouldn't show up in a pix). WORLD WAR I AND II PISTOLS USED BY THE ALLIES. The pressure at the cylinder to barrel gap is much higher than at the muzzle, so revolvers are louder than semi-auto pistols using the same cartridge. In Russian service, it was known for its extreme sturdiness and ability to withstand abuse. by etprescottazusa91 Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:58 pm, Return to Military and Modern Hand Guns Forum, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. The ability to fire suppressed attracts people who are interested in NFA items. On the upper right you can see what it looks like when almost completely disassembled. Aftermarket cylinders for .32 can be installed, allowing the Nagant to safely fire .32 H&R Magnum or .32 ACP[citation needed]. The BRAMIT device was designed and patented in 1929, but was not built and tested by the military until 1931. Come join the discussion about the history, technology and extraordinary background associated with these design masterpieces. Designed by Belgian gunsmiths Leon and Emil Nagant, who were also mostly responsible for the Mosin Nagant rifle, the M1895 revolver is better than generally thought. Main Page - Russian Mosin Nagant Information Misc. Proper fitting ammunition can be reloaded from .32-20 Winchester brass by using the Lee Nagant die set or .30" carbine dies and 9mm Luger shell-holders in the reloading press. You will find it on 91/30's and carbines also, as the dates are from the era of Stalin you just know it had to be some dark, and sinister organization. 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